19: Staging Tips on Revamping the Vibes at Storied

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Maggie:
Technology

Rich:
Roland actually rolling. I feel like we say that at the beginning I feel like I always say the beginning of these things

Maggie:
Well after that flub from someone we don’t want to name. Who forgot

Rich:
It was me guys. I did not press record that one time. Okay, I

Maggie:
Think it’s like our show

Rich:
Shot us TJ first saving our butts on that one. Yeah.

Maggie:
It’s our safety to. Want to just like triple check that we’re recording

Rich:
Maggie. Welcome back from your Excursion.

Maggie:
No

Rich:
Mid-country.

Maggie:
Thanks. It’s been we had like a little bit of a you and I had a one week Hiatus, but since we’re so dedicated to our audience,

Rich:
They’ll never know.

Maggie:
He’ll never know and there was no interruption in. The podcast production

Rich:
In the well, that’s true. Although it. According to how we’re doing this technically, they’re still an episode that has to drop in a couple days from now

Maggie:
Right

Rich:
Time of this recording. So anything could happen is all I’m trying to say

Maggie:
I know but we do our best not to let that happen.

Rich:
Of course. Yeah, we’re just waiting for that reply from TJ. Hopefully he is. still

Maggie:
TJ

Rich:
With us No, nothing so bad. Yeah.

Maggie:
So this is episode 19

Rich:
It sure is. And episode 17 and 18. You know, I feel like we’ve been on a little roller coaster lately. Yeah,

Maggie:
And

Rich:
I think that’s okay because business is you know it Ebbs and flows literally like like business. finances Revenue all that kind of stuff but like business ownership is a little bit of a roller coaster and we mean that emotionally but to it so it’s worth it’s worth talking about those kinds of things. I think it’s also worth maybe checking in and saying all right, how is everybody doing and and more maybe more importantly like, how do we How do we move forward how do we get to a place? That’s More balanced.

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
If we can or maybe even how do we take those things and like learn from them in process through them because everything can be a learning. experience, you know, so we had lots of process those last couple episodes. and We hope to continue to do that kind of thing.

Maggie:
Right

Rich:
But we also I don’t know just some thoughts. Yeah,

Maggie:
Good thoughts.

Rich:
Yeah. I’m excited about today though.

Maggie:
Me too.

Rich:
We had a Google planning session for this one. So.

Maggie:
We’ve been listening to lately.

Rich:
So I listened to a podcast that popped up on my Suggestions there just I’m something I’m already subscribed to but I jumped in because I like the title. It was it’s podcast called keys to the shop. Which is

Maggie:
Why did I think you were gonna say House Coffee House

Rich:
Coffee? So I heard this great episode from House Coffee. No keys to the shop is a Service based largely Coffee Cafe, especially coffee kind of thing but like service and hospitality. management based podcasts that Is Guy the done by this guy? Christopherio who I believe is from Syracuse if I’m not wrong, don’t worry that now. but he just another guy who’s deep in the coffee game. He also has a consulting company. through keys to the shop and This latest episode was on. the importance of guides That are extremely specific in detail oriented.

Maggie:
Guides

Rich:
Guides for things like your menu and how to make your menu and also

Maggie:
So like a paper guide not like a purse like a human.

Rich:
Rights.

Maggie:
Okay. Yeah,

Rich:
I guess the importance of standard operating procedures. If you value standard operating procedures, which most people would say they do and he was kind of making this point and I and I I’ve come to believe this. You if you want something done a specific way. You have to tell people the specific way. You want something done. if you don’t then you either don’t care. Or you don’t know that you care. Yeah,

Maggie:
And

Rich:
That’s gonna come out later when you’re frustrated that people aren’t doing things the way you thought they should assume they should do them. Do you know so he’s making the point like and I I knew this to be true and and I believe this and I’m sort of like Basically, what I’ve learned is that if you don’t tell someone how to do something and then they don’t do it. It’s your fault. You’re to blame is your mistake. That’s a hard leadership lesson to learn. But it’s an important one to learn so that you also realize how to change that Dynamic which is to say, okay, you get to pass this time because I didn’t tell you I expected this. So now once once you know, though once I have told you once I’ve written it down once you’ve affirmed that you understand this and agree to do it this way and then you don’t do it. Well now I know that’s called accountability now, I know how to come for you. Yeah and help you do it the way that you said you would do it. so good little refresher on that concept formula last night. He goes, he just you know as he’s talking through it. He kind of rehashes the same point over and over and just through like different specific examples. So there’s a lot to glean from that. And found that helpful and refreshing and it’s very much what I’m engaged in right now with. Bit engaged in that with story also engaged in that with my new team, especially. Where her there has been very little. Of that kind of stuff in place up until my arrival. So it’s a little bit of like you have all the it’s tough when you enter a new environment because you have this team of people. It’s been there for years that have always done things this one way quote unquote, but the problem is that that one way is that everyone is doing something a little different. Often there’s no consistency. Well, there’s less consistency than there should be and then when what which is fine, if no, if the team never changes kind of y’all know how to work together, but then you introduce someone new like me. I was new I had to learn the system as it was rather than come in with a whole new system. I had to know what was going on First and No one could say one where you know, well not know but like there was a different answer from everyone kind of deal and that would be around all kinds of different things or there’s just different systems thing, you know, so I don’t want there’s not I’m not here to throw anyone or anything under the bus in that place. Like I totally get it but obviously experience that first hand as a newcomer and now like how do you hire someone else who is less intuitive maybe or less experienced?

Maggie:
Right.

Rich:
That’s there’s a lot of reasons why you want to have those standard operating procedures, but I think the big thing is like for owners. or managers they usually have expectations about how they want to place a run how they want the vibe to be how they want the customers service experience to be you know, you largely usually you have owners who have in their minds and they might even do things this way. They can see Envision the entire customer experience from from the parking lot Through to finishing their stuff and leaving, you know, an owner often has that whole thing like envisioned in their mind, but if they can’t get that out on paper and or ever communicate that clearly to their staff then they’re going to be like bummed and frustrated when people aren’t fulfilling that Vision. Yeah that they’ve never communicated. So that’s why you want all that stuff in place and that was a Time episode for me. So thanks Chris.

Maggie:
Chris who

Rich:
Christopherio

Maggie:
Cool

Rich:
He’s the podcast

Maggie:
For clothes shop.

Rich:
It’s an interesting one because he’s he doesn’t he does interviews but like most of his episodes are just him talking, you know, and I think I I don’t know how I would do that model. I don’t know if I could podcast that way, but he He is doing good job.

Maggie:
Cool.

Rich:
Yeah,

Maggie:
Sweet.

Rich:
What are you listening to pack?

Maggie:
I thought you’d never ask Rich. I’ve been waiting. so I have been listening to this super catchy song called Monte Carlo. by a band called Apollo

Rich:
Apollo,

Maggie:
Have you heard of them?

Rich:
You know funny enough I have

Maggie:
Oh my gosh

Rich:
And funny enough. I’ve heard that song

Maggie:
Such a good song. It is so good and it’s so catchy and I’ve been singing it like ever since I like heard it and I like added it to my favorites on Spotify and

Rich:
Totally serious.

Maggie:
I’m being a thousand percent series.

Rich:
That’s awesome

Maggie:
A thousand percent. It is such a good song and Apollo is a band. that our own TJ McMaster is the lead singer of and this song Monte Carlo is

Rich:
It goes hard

Maggie:
So good and I just can’t stop singing it and so shout out to TJ for writing and singing such a good song and I think it needs to be submitted to eqx for like local at 11. Like I would love to hear this song on local at 11 for eqx. So if you hear this, please go give Apollo on Spotify some love. It’s apllo and listen to the song Monte Carlo and some of their other music.

Rich:
There’s a video did you see the video

Maggie:
Video is good, too.

Rich:
The video is super well done.

Maggie:
Oh my gosh.

Rich:
That’s actually I heard the song for the first time as I was watching the video.

Maggie:
Oh, yeah

Rich:
Showed it to me. It was pretty excited.

Maggie:
I I heard the song first when I just thought on Instagram like through like a clip. Yeah on a real and I was like, wow, this is really

Rich:
Catchy. It’s really impressive. I didn’t expect like Kids to be I mean this is this is lame but I it was like first of all, they’re all music students. They all are in school together for music. They it’s I shouldn’t have been so surprised at like how professional I

Maggie:
Don’t know who this song writer is I don’t know if it’s TJ, but I know TJ’s the lead singer. I don’t know who’s the song writer.

Rich:
I think it’s collaborative. But for what he said,

Maggie:
Even the way that

Rich:
He wrote the lyrics are

Maggie:
There it’s such a good song. It’s super catchy and Well done. I really like that song and

Rich:
It’s about his car

Maggie:
I know

Rich:
Car in the video is his car

Maggie:
And I mean you can read between the lines too. But it’s like I like that kind of I like that kind of music that’s like double entender like suggestive like now if if you haven’t wanted to listen to it now, you should go listen to it because there’s like double meanings and like like I don’t know. I just really like it and if you have ever had like a car that you just love Just go listen to the song. Wow, I didn’t you didn’t

Rich:
Way to go. What a surprise me though. Yeah.

Maggie:
You weren’t expecting that. I

Rich:
Actually absolutely was not

Maggie:
Cool.

Rich:
As soon as you started saying that I was like, oh, here we go with another song. She’s always listening to music. Yeah, and Is there is our good friend?

Maggie:
Mm-hmm?

Rich:
Yeah with a good song. So that’s a TJ shot Apollo.

Maggie:
Yeah.

Rich:
Maybe I can bear new. We just change the theme song out make it a

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
Monte Carlo but so I’ve been thinking about Vibes still okay not to rehash the unhinged Vibe situation because that was a great conversation and got a lot of fun feedback on it, but I am trying to do something with storied now. It’s interesting that we were talking about Vibes and unhingy Vibes and all that stuff. Last time just just Vibes in general because I’ve been thinking a lot about the way that The Vibes of a place. Are like part of the experience? That you get when you go somewhere and I think that that is very much a part of what helps people choose one place over another. Does that make sense?

Maggie:
Yes, it makes perfect sense because that is how I choose places.

Rich:
So that’s what I want to talk about today. I’m thinking like I’m seeing I’m envisioning this thing and I actually even like talk to you about it a little bit already. I texted you. I said, I think I’m gonna take story. I think I’m playing with this like homie comfortable vibe that I want to maybe take story and and lean into that. So I want to talk with you about maybe my vision there and like the importance of Vibes.

Maggie:
I’ve been waiting for you to

Rich:
Play his friends. Perfect and and then talk about it. I don’t know. I just want to hear from you and then maybe even like some of your ideas from what we could do in that environment and maybe like a little bit practical about it and then just kind of wrap it up with like I don’t know. I guess where what we’re gonna do

Maggie:
Right

Rich:
From there or what I should do. So, I don’t know how that sounds to you. But that’s what I was thinking about for today.

Maggie:
So what I can I ask like what influenced you to want to? Change Up The Vibes that storied Well, yeah, so not to get

Rich:
Too much into this but like I’ve just been thinking about what makes people I think it comes a little bit out of my experience of you know, I’m always asking myself. Where are the people how do we get more people through these doors because we seem to hit this Revenue ceiling and see the same average number of people every day slash like every weekend. It’s kind of about the same. It’s all really close and tight within like I don’t know a couple hundred dollars on a weekly basis and I’m like, why aren’t we seeing a higher number on average? And why aren’t we seeing more people and I’m thinking about the kinds of places that are maybe like closest to what I’m trying to do. other coffee shops in the capital region and when I think about those the kinds of places I go to so I’m like what makes people go out of their way for a certain kind of place. And so I just really been thinking on the Practical level of like storied is kind of like I don’t say is lacking in the vibe department, but it’s it’s like basically just trying to figure out how can I better this business and how can I make it the kind of place that’s a little more experiential so that you get more when you come in than just a cup of coffee or just a boba, you know, I added books. So we got the bookstore Vibe going on and I’ve really liked how that feels because when you’re in there, there’s there’s bookshelves everywhere now and I’m literally buying books like every week you’re texting me about books that you find. Yeah, like do you want these? I’m like, yeah and so I’m always just trying to figure out what can we do to make this place a little bit more of like the kind of thing. You’re gonna go out of your way for because let’s face it Scotia. It’s not exactly on the map. Okay. It’s a village. It’s got a cool coffee shop. But like that’s about it. No offense to other businesses in Scotia. There’s a bakery now stoked about that. It’s down the street in our old space

Maggie:
Noble Nash.

Rich:
They will not shout out but point being like it’s just a bunch of hair stylists and insurance agents, you know, there’s not a lot going on. There’s no shopping. So I’m I’m literally The Coffee Spot. I’m the Boba spot. And now I’m the bookstore, you know should all be different places in a town. Yeah. Can’t do it all you know. Yeah, but since I am, how do I do it even more it’s kind of like,

Maggie:
Okay,

Rich:
Whatever.

Maggie:
That is such a good point rich.

Rich:
Okay, thank you. So that’s where I’m coming from. And then okay last thing I’m gonna say about it to give you a little more insight. So we talked last week about the unhinged Vibes and unfortunately a lot of that came down to especially as we talked to TJ, like kind of one individual. Yeah or like a set of individuals. And it made me think about how small story it is. So when you have someone who’s unhing The Vibes it stands out and sort of can be off-putting. And when you have a place that’s small you kind of need. Like a set of house rules. Yeah, you know that everyone’s gonna abide by because if you don’t if you’re out of pocket with things then that’s gonna throw off the like the threshold for throwing off. The vibe is is a lot more what the results are thrown off. The vibe is a lot lower.

Maggie:
Yeah, and

Rich:
So I’m like, all right. This place is too small. to be messing with the vibe and And it’s like cozy, it’s the books make it feel kind of homey. It’s like it because it’s a small place. It’s you know, everything’s sort of at hand. It kind of can feel like a living room. So I’m like maybe just Embrace that lifestyle instead of me being so anti, you know old school Coffee House never have a couch in your coffee shop these days kind of thing. So, I don’t know that’s where I’m coming from.

Maggie:
I’m here for Rich.

Rich:
You’re an interior designer basically

Maggie:
Danger.

Rich:
You’re a Stager but I’ve been actually thinking about where’s the line between what you do? An interior designer and I’m sure there is a line and I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on that. But like at the end of the day your job is to look at a room. create vibes freaking curious and Vibes, so

Maggie:
So true.

Rich:
What do you think? How important do you think? the vibe of a place is

Maggie:
I would say that the vibe is number one number one for me personally.

Rich:
Hey dude,

Maggie:
Because I’ll go out of my way. To go to a place that has good vibes. Because for me as a business owner if I need to chill and do some work for a little bit. I’m not going to do that in a place where I can’t. Get comfortable where I don’t like the smells or I’m too hot or too cold. So being in a place that feels cozy and homey. Is important to me when I’m doing work or when I’m meeting with clients.

Rich:
Yeah, I

Maggie:
Don’t want to meet clients in a place that Feel that has unhinged Vibes

Rich:
True or like no air conditioning.

Maggie:
Yeah.

Rich:
Shout out to story Circa July of this year.

Maggie:
So I would say environment is huge because if the music is too loud or it’s or the places to crowded or there aren’t enough seats and I’m not going to name the name but like I met a client at a very popular coffee shop earlier this year not stored and we had to leave because there was no place for us to sit and have a conversation and this is this is a really popular place and I was kind of bummed because we made a point to go to this place to have coffee and like discuss their home buying process and we had to go someplace else because there just was nowhere to sit and it was too crowded. Yeah,

Rich:
That’s tough. It’s like a quote unquote good problem to have you know,

Maggie:
No it’s a great problem to have for that business, but it was not it was it made me feel a little bit like nervous because I’m like, oh are like it was taking you know, just yeah it moved it interrupted the flow of like just met these people for the first time. We’re about to talk about their home buying experience and like we have to leave and automatically find some place new.

Rich:
Yeah. So if you knew that that could be a rescue would have chosen

Maggie:
Yes

Rich:
Somewhere else.

Maggie:
Yes

Rich:
Right off the road.

Maggie:
Yes.

Rich:
Yeah, okay.

Maggie:
So yeah Vibes are important. and like making from for my business for my industry like real estate. I’m not necessarily meeting new client new staging clients per se if I’m talking about meeting a client for the first time. I’m referring to my real estate business like a seller or a buyer.

Rich:
Yeah,

Maggie:
And I like to meet someplace where I can have like at least a 30 minute discussion. I can take notes and get an idea of what they’re looking for what they’re what their pain points and their top priorities are. And yeah. Say answer your question.

Rich:
Yeah, well from your personal standpoint it speaks to like what you look for in a place.

Maggie:
And I know I’m not the only one

Rich:
That’s what I was gonna say next. Like do you think people like how much? How are we even quantify it other than sales or like maybe social media representation like the kinds of places that get? Grammed, you know, like people take pictures or make posts or tag a place, you know. I don’t know that says maybe that speaks to the vibe.

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
Sometimes I don’t know if that speaks to like there’s just influencers out here trying to build their own platforms and like go into all the places that look cool and new versus. Versus whether places actually. Yeah,

Maggie:
See when I think of storied. I know how much? thought and care and crafting you took to make storied. what it is in terms of the in terms of their taste bud experience which is totally different than their environmental experience. Yeah, so you can guarantee to somebody when they come to storied. They are going to have the best cappuccino or the best latte or the best boa drink or the best cup of coffee because you have taken the time to make sure that that taste experience is perfected.

Rich:
We got the best latte this side of the Mohawk

Maggie:
You you really you do and and that takes that is a craft. but you know, I guess man doesn’t live by coffee alone. It’s true. Like they need they need like bread and environment. I don’t know really terrible analogy. But like I think you get what I’m saying? Yeah, like in order to get people to stay. And spend and then invite someone else. You’re you’re thinking now. Okay, how can I capture? more fish I’m using yeah, he’s

Rich:
So funny.

Maggie:
Um parents.

Rich:
I think that what I’m trying to figure out is how do you get people because I story will never be like the convenient option. We’re not Scotia is not a convenient place people live there because it’s nice but one I don’t even get a lot of Scotia or Glenville people. I don’t think I get as many Scotia Glenn will people as I do. People who are who are coming from out of town.

Maggie:
I think you’re on to something because your other shop isn’t a convenient place either.

Rich:
Yes, we’ll go to it. Absolutely. It’s destination only. It’s literally out of the way in the middle of nowhere a Hidden Gem and it’s busier in four days than I am in five by far. and that’s I think largely because people are there. They’re not it’s not your pass through grab coffee fast thing like it’s not even until like

Maggie:
That is the type of great awful go

Rich:
Get better. No stories there.

Maggie:
Yeah, that is a place where people go and they’re like, they know they’re gonna hang for an hour.

Rich:
Yes, exactly.

Maggie:
And that is what you’re trying to do with story.

Rich:
So the and story is essentially that kind of place as well because we Were the kind of in the middle of a street? We don’t really have parking in the back. There’s free street parking for now. There’s no drive-thru. Our hours are 8:30 to 4:30 as it stands like we’re not super convenient. We’re not trying to right now be like your commuter stop and get your coffee. Even though if you did you’d have a happy day because it’s gonna be in good start today. Um, but like we’re We just are inherently the kind of place that is a little more of like a let’s go hang out. Let’s go meet someone. Let’s share a memory which I mean storied coffee. It’s literally all about that actually. We exist to provide for memorable experiences. Through especially coffee milk season more that’s our like mission statement. Or our existence statement if you will so we know or about and it really is that kind of place. So I just I think I’ve I think I’m trying to lean into how do we create a vibe that people want to experience and they know they’re going to have like a a cozy cup or like a comfortable coffee and a beautiful Boba. I’m working a magic test. And you know and like have a memory a memorable experience either with our braces with themselves with a friend. Like how do I now lean into that in a way that people are gonna want to come hang out so Yeah still that’s just like a lot of like where we’re coming from. So, how do we do it?

Maggie:
Well, you’re please you’ve got

Rich:
Let’s talk about what’s already

Maggie:
For my

Rich:
My kind of I’m like, I want to hear. What would we do? What should we do? Not that I want free service no like advice from you. You know.

Maggie:
No, I think I think our land like our dear listener could benefit from this too, you know, not just you we have I’m sure. Those going through their own. Venture trying to create their own Vibes. I think that’s I want to help other people too.

Rich:
Cool.

Maggie:
On perfect I would start by saying. You are on the right track with the books. and I think you should continue to lean hard into that and

Rich:
Don’t worry,

Maggie:
And I know you literally have a warehouse now. I know

Rich:
I just need time to go and pick them out and dust them.

Maggie:
I I think you could benefit from making. A bookstore inside your store.

Rich:
Okay. I love that and I’d like to I’d love to talk more about that.

Maggie:
And that that to me. Okay, here’s here’s my here’s what I think you should do and whatever you do with it. It’s up to you.

Rich:
Hit me.

Maggie:
I get so many targeted ads on Instagram or like, you know, the algorithm knows that I like hidden rooms. You like getting rooms. I fall like I Follow Chris loves Julia and they do like home renovations. You should follow them. If you haven’t there they have like a hidden room and their home. The a beautiful mess if you

Rich:
In the library, right?

Maggie:
Yeah LC has well, she sold her house, but in her house that she just sold in Tennessee. She had a hidden library and it was through a closet.

Rich:
So

Maggie:
And I just get all of these posts out from the algorithm about these reals of people doing hidden rooms in their houses. And I think that you should make a hidden room in storied. And I know exactly where it would be would be in the back room or the sliding glass doors where you keep your freezer and a bunch of storage stuff,

Rich:
Okay.

Maggie:
Paint that place black and then like the door you have like a regular door there, but like make that instead of making it a door make it a bookshelf.

Rich:
That like open

Maggie:
That opens.

Rich:
Do you mean like a painted bookshelf or like

Maggie:
No like an actual bookshelf like you’re laughing but I’m serious, right? You should make that door a bookshelf. So when you like push on the bookshelf the act the whole bookshelf opens into this hidden secret Library

Rich:
Again some serious Batman Vibes right now, and I love

Maggie:
The story. And you can even do like like secret passcode like knock three times. To open the secret library or whatever it might be but how like if you’re talking destination and you’re talking like a reason for somebody to come what other coffee shop in the capital region has a bookshelf doorway with a hidden Library.

Rich:
Yeah. It sounds it sounds too. Cool.

Maggie:
How cool would that be?

Rich:
Can I hire that? Sounds like

Maggie:
I know a couple of people.

Rich:
Yeah,

Maggie:
It is a project but that but It would be. It would be just it would be an epic experience because then you’d get people. Not just hanging out at the front cash wrap and then leaving you you would get somebody coming all the way through your store all the way to the back. And if you have specific merchandise kind of sprinkled out through the back of the store story t-shirts mugs coffee, things like that. you kind of have those like little Grabbers to get people on their way back from The back secret Library.

Rich:
No, you know,

Maggie:
Yeah.

Rich:
The password could be hope and sesame.

Maggie:
Open

Rich:
Sesame. Shout out to Hope and Sesame Sesame milk available asteroid coffee.

Maggie:
No comment.

Rich:
Dude, it’s a fan fave.

Maggie:
I know I don’t like I don’t like Sesame milk personally nothing against hope and sesame just everything against Sesame

Rich:
This podcast is brought to you by Just kidding. Although it could be

Maggie:
So that’s that’s my number one idea.

Rich:
I love that idea. That sounds really fun. I think practically it’d be a challenge but this whole thing is a challenge. So

Maggie:
Yeah practically would be a challenge but honestly, Rich

Rich:
You memorable

Maggie:
You grammable

Rich:
Day.

Maggie:
You could do. You could take video of the process. You could do like a fun little like before and then like you tap the door and then all the sudden it’s a bookshelf that you push open and it’s like you’re secret library and I I feel like you could even like if you buy a book from the secret Library. You could I don’t know. I just think that would give people a reason like oh, where’d you get that book? Oh, I got it from the secret library at storied.

Rich:
Yeah. It’s like a thing to experience for

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
That’d be a cool experience. Dang, man. That would be really cool. I’m just I just can’t Envision how I would accomplish the door.

Maggie:
I know

Rich:
We can do the back room. Yeah, we could put bookshelves the door can maybe be the Finishing Touch like we could still clear out that room and

Maggie:
Yeah

Rich:
Put the shelves in there. And I mean, we’ve actually kind of been talking about

Maggie:
Using our room. Basically the better way would be well you can buy it as a kit.

Rich:
Okay. Word, we’ll have to we can do some researching discover that

Maggie:
Yeah

Rich:
That yeah. Okay. I like that. I like that. About the people like that

Maggie:
People would like that for sure.

Rich:
That’d be easy to use kind of a small room like feels manageable, you know.

Maggie:
Yeah, it’s a small space and

Rich:
I don’t have dramatic before after necessarily but wouldn’t necessarily have to

Maggie:
You’d have a dramatic before after effect. and it like You know, you don’t have to have you’re not gonna have a million people back there at once.

Rich:
Yeah, no way,

Maggie:
But it could be floor to ceiling books.

Rich:
Yep. Right on. Well stay tuned summer project. I would like that idea. What do you think about like? So one thing I’ve been thinking about is in the front room there? Right. Now I got books in there. It’s the we have two upsell recently. I had two armchairs and those are those are kind of like in a corner of that front space.

Maggie:
I noticed you move the two new chairs. I

Rich:
Want to new armchairs and I really struggled to find a place to put them. So I just ended up in the in the front window there because I didn’t want to put those in and sacrifice like table seating too. Yeah, you know, did you notice the table in the background?

Maggie:
I was there Sunday.

Rich:
I think that’s a good move. I think that was cool. Originally. I was thinking I would I kind of make that backspace a little more comfy with the armchairs, but then I like lost. I feel like I lost a lot of

Maggie:
Well space there’s a little I like well what I liked about the old location was all your bigger tables were in the back. So if you wanted to meet with somebody you could like meet and have a conversation in the back without feeling like super interrupted.

Rich:
Yeah, and I

Maggie:
Like that you put the bigger table in the back in this location now because you can it has that similar. Ability

Rich:
Utility.

Maggie:
Yeah.

Rich:
Yeah, I hear you. Well, the other thing too is like the front room is just a little Cozier. It’s got the windows and it almost like and the door with the stained glass. It’s almost like you’re stepping into a living room. Yeah, so I also thought maybe if I just shift the front room, like I’m even eyeing an like a GE vintage television that I could put Ah, not that it would I mean I guess if it works I can turn on and try to do something. fun with it but but just to have it on the table so that it orients the room around like like it almost can have a living room Vibe and maybe change out some of the tables that are in there. Or or the or like the shelves in the way. The books are what I’d like to do is get taller bookshelves. Everywhere else so that I can move like I can put more books. And right now the shelves are like not have one shelf that’s taller than I am. But the rest the shelves are kind of like shorter than I am six feet tall, you know, so they’re like four or five feet tall. So there’s not a lot of bookstores but like Florida ceiling books is more of a bookstore Vibe, you know where your walls are just bookshelves. That’s cool and you get to put a lot more books that way so that would be like a seven foot minimum. Kind of shelf. So I’ve been sort of shopping around believe it or not. It’s pretty hard to find good solid wood used bookshelves on Marketplace. There’s not a lot and they don’t hang around that long. Everybody wants to sell their crappy. What is that a

Maggie:
Particle

Rich:
Particle board stuff and I’m like did shelf can’t bear the amount of pokes I got. So anyway, that’s part of the thing too is like trying to figure out the way to shelve these these books. but if I can do that and then I can move some out of that front room and sort of reorganize it around like the That comfier Vibe so you walk into this comfy spot and then you just walk through that to get to the counter and then there’s like more tables and stuff in the back like you said. I mean, you know to give you perspective like we only have our seating capacity is literally like 30 seats. It’s a small place 30 35 depending

Maggie:
We

Rich:
Do the bar stools there. Which half the time we’re taking up by my crap or books on the counter or whatever, you know. so trying to find that that balance but I think the easiest way to bring the Cozy I would be right in the front. And like do I’m thinking like like the words like neighborhood living room. are Are like what I’ve been? This guiding me that’s a little bit of like yeah some words that are guiding me. Neighborhood living room. Yeah

Maggie:
Well, when I worked at Pottery Barn we had different. Different it’s a big store. It was a Crossgates Mall. And it was divided up into different zones. There was one zone was called tabletop the middle Zone was called design and then other Zone was called decorative accessories, which we called deck for short

Rich:
Nice.

Maggie:
So you could divide storied into three different zones you could do.

Rich:
Yeah,

Maggie:
You’ve got your your little entryway Zone with those two doors. You can do your living room. You could do your cash wrap and then you could do. your book room like you’re hidden Library.

Rich:
Hmm, that’s true. I think if we can get that back room going a lot of the bulk of books can go there so that we can maybe move things a little bit more around in that front room.

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
Just a thought. Hmm. I don’t know you can tell I’m not a professional at this stuff.

Maggie:
Yeah, but I think part of the you’re doing something, you know, you have recognized that the way it’s been. Has not really moved the needle. And you recognized that you need to do something a little bit different. To get some new Footsteps in the door. Yeah,

Rich:
And

Maggie:
One way to do that is to become a clinical, you know destination or having that creative thing that other places don’t have I mean what other coffee shop in this area would have a hidden Library?

Rich:
I mean, none

Maggie:
None.

Rich:
There’s one. I was just about to us as myself who even has books and up until very recently there was.

Maggie:
I know you’re talking about.

Rich:
I guess technically up until very recently. There was like we only started carrying books. Ironically we’re called storied. Okay, we only started selling books last July. So a year ago don’t know what took me so long because I’ve always wanted to do it. I’ve talked about it for a long time. Shout out to Seth who I know listens because he was texting me about unhing Vibes the other day but Seth, I don’t know if you remember this when we we just have this thing called the curated Corner.

Maggie:
Okay

Rich:
Covid.

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
We had this like shelves. This little corner part in the in the in the old story in Scotia the way it was laid out. There was like this corner. We had these two shelves sort of like 90 degrees for each other

Maggie:
And

Rich:
We call it the curated corner and each shelf or each like set set of shelves. was like you could get it on a monthly basis and do this commission type. Sale and you could literally the shelves were yours. You just do a display. However you want with whatever you want. Keep. It stocked change it out. You got a whole month like will advertise that you’ll advertise it small Commission on the sales and then So we had this curated Corner thing and that was cool. Just a way like we were, you know celebrating local businesses trying to do that. Well Seth worked for me for a while legendary staff. And he I gave him his own little we called it Seth’s. book corner And he curated a little like bookshelf. And just different it was I think was one literally one shelf not like the whole case like one

Maggie:
Level shelf. Yeah,

Rich:
There might have been two but I can’t remember it was small and that was the point was like making manageable you changed out. It wasn’t even it was the thing was for more than a month. But that was fun. And so we’re talking way early on and I was in his hands not mine. And because at that time I was overwhelmed by the age. I was like, I don’t know. I don’t read. I don’t know nothing about books. I just like bookstores and I like collecting books, but I wouldn’t know what to put out there. I would know what to sell what sells so said that cool Vision. I said, let’s do it and it was cool. It was fun. People bought books. I was I was impressed. and that was the extent of it and then you know, he went to school. that whatever the books disappeared then covid no curated corner and then Last I don’t know last summer. I was just like we had found ourselves at this book sale and I was like, let’s just do it. Let’s just walk through these books crates. Let’s handpicks and books will put them on a shelf. We’ll see what happens and

Maggie:
The rest is history

Rich:
Become of a problem since then if you’re a book collector already, and now you have you have some funding it’s a buy more books Let’s just say you better have an outlet for those books. That is also a way to make some money back because that’s my problem right now. So anyway, that’s new to us before that. Who yeah who has books now? There’s two new businesses in the calendar region. Okay that our quote unquote coffee book store kind of place.

Maggie:
I only know of one.

Rich:
I say Capital Region. There’s one clubs in park. Yeah. There’s one Schenectady.

Maggie:
Oh.

Rich:
And that one like just opened like two or three months ago tops. And the one spark open maybe early this year.

Maggie:
Yeah, but

Rich:
The books kind of came in a little bit later right after they opened. so It is kind of a thing. But the way you do it I think can really play to you. The one is actually like more new books. We’re trying to be like a used bookstore. Yeah, which is inherently a Cozier. More vintage kind of thing, right? It’s a little more eclectic. You never know what you’re gonna find. I mean, I don’t go to new book stores. I can’t afford new books. I go to use bookstores because for the price of one new book I can get 12 used books, you know.

Maggie:
Anyway, yeah.

Rich:
Quick note something. I realized you know the little punch card we have.

Maggie:
Yes

Rich:
That looks like a library card.

Maggie:
Yes,

Rich:
You know how you get a stamp for every book.

Maggie:
Yes.

Rich:
Well, I did the math and if you buy nine books you get a free drink. In one day,

Maggie:
Huh? So

Rich:
A little Insider info for you

Maggie:
Interesting

Rich:
Because you get a stamp for every book that you buy. And you can stand for every visit so you get the one stand for the visit. But if you buy nine books you get nine stamps and then free drink. In my technically be 10 bucks. No because that’s 10 stamps. So you’re left with this free?

Maggie:
Cool, no never bought a book at storage, but I have donated books to store it.

Rich:
Yeah. Yes. Anyway little little bit that I realized the other day was kind of fun.

Maggie:
I’m

Rich:
I got actually advertise.

Maggie:
I’m an audible person.

Rich:
Yeah, we’ve been over this.

Maggie:
Yeah. Nothing against

Rich:
Well use a use code use discount code.

Maggie:
All right. Let’s copy podcast.

Rich:
That won’t get

Maggie:
You. Yeah, so,

Rich:
Okay, what would you do? What else would you do? Can I ask there’s a fair to ask you like, you know story, you know the vibe, you know, we’re talking about we got the back room. That’s a great idea. So like I don’t know. What would you do?

Maggie:
I’m

Rich:
Not trying to be a vintage store. Okay, you know what? I mean? Like I like old stuff. I think people like to experience old stuff and that’s why I do the GE clock radios. And that’s why I have the radios actually playing music, even though the music is not vintage. They’re all synced to that same. To the music we’re playing and I think that’s a fun like for me that’s experiential. That’s a fun thing. You would never see that anywhere. Because I invented that yeah, like every one of our little stereos in different corners of the of the shop are playing are like signature chill hop. Vibe music and these are old radios. They’re actually working of different eras, you know different decades so That’s like a cool specific thing but not because I’m like we gotta be this vintage place and I’m not really looking to sell vintage stuff. Although that is also a Vibe and we could go in that direction. but I don’t know if that’s the direction like I am that’s not my strong suit and not really what I’m like.

Maggie:
Pardon the interruption that was in my alarm

Rich:
So good. Yeah, so so, okay that said that caveat like what what would you do? What else might you do?

Maggie:
What I do

Rich:
You free reign? To Vibe store it out with ions. We can do vintage stuff.

Maggie:
Yeah. I

Rich:
Know you like that and you have some stuff and Um, like what do you think would would produce like a homie? comfortable vibe

Maggie:
Um Really putting me on the spot.

Rich:
Well, that’s the point. I see.

Maggie:
I know I am. Well, I gave you my hidden Library idea. I really love that idea. If I had like Limitless. Funding and time, I would that’s like that’s the first thing I would do no matter what. number two I would I would probably. Move the drink station like the station where you put like. Cream and or like sugar like the straw napkin. I would move that station someplace else that wasn’t directly behind where people order. because That can be kind of a cluster of like a lot of people are waiting. And if somebody’s like just trying to get out the door. And that’s like cut through people who are still trying to order that could cause like a backup.

Rich:
Okay,

Maggie:
So maybe maybe look at the traffic flow and maybe maybe where it is at is the best place but I feel like that could be improved.

Rich:
That’s interesting because I was just asking myself that same question the other day. I was like where else would I put this? Yeah. I was like walking through the shop. I was moving the furniture around late at night if y’all saw any stories of stories, FYI and literally 11:30. I posted after I had finished moving stuff all around but one of the things I was asking myself was like Could I change this this creamer situation

Maggie:
You

Rich:
It makes a lot of sense where it is, but I hear what you’re saying. It’s it’s a time. It’s like a narrow walkway through there. So

Maggie:
Have a shelf next to the doorway to the kitchen with like I think a bunch of loose teaser on that. I don’t know if you could find a different spot for that or if you need access to that right away. You might be able to put the that station right there.

Rich:
Interesting this that’s like a little bit behind the bar, but also Not you kind of walk you kind of walk to it.

Maggie:
I mean don’t. let me

Rich:
Freaking Maggie, dude

Maggie:
You have way too many plants

Rich:
What?

Maggie:
I’m you ask my opinion. This is unfiltered.

Rich:
Maybe they’re just poorly arranged.

Maggie:
All right.

Rich:
Tell me more. That’s

Maggie:
The whole credenza that’s in the entryway. That’s just plants.

Rich:
Yeah, well, where would you put them they gotta be in the windows?

Maggie:
No. But I’m just saying it can and then you have a whole shelf. You have a vendor who’s selling plants? So I you ask my my opinion. I think we could reduce the amount of plants. in the front area and you could allow yourself a little bit more surface for drink What do you call that when you add like? Sugar and

Rich:
Could you Mom? No, it’s it’s we call it like the The

Maggie:
Stir station. Yeah,

Rich:
I don’t know the what are you call that in the industry? I’m like

Maggie:
Straw everyone

Rich:
Knows the

Maggie:
Salt. Condiment

Rich:
Condom condiment bar. Okay is basically with that. Yeah. Condiment cart if you will,

Maggie:
Yeah, yeah. I think that that’s and I’m not I’m not trying to come across this

Rich:
Critical. I was fighting words.

Maggie:
I’m again. This is not trying to me trying to be critical and just me trying to be a little more practical.

Rich:
That’s fine. I asked.

Maggie:
Mm-hmm.

Rich:
I asked

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
Tell me more.

Maggie:
Yeah.

Rich:
Okay, you’re right and I’ve actually been especially with that particular piece of furniture. You talking about with all the plants in the front room. I’ve definitely been

Maggie:
Peace.

Rich:
Realizing like I mean, there’s a lot of wasted. There’s a lot of wasted space right there.

Maggie:
Yes.

Rich:
Now the other thing is like I couldn’t even really use it for books either. I mean there’s books inside of it and that’s That that we inherited that piece Furniture like when we moved in it was in there and so I’ve just shuffled it around and tried to make use of it. So that’s why it has the books on it because it has a tile top. I’m sorry another books. That’s why it has the plants on it because it’s got a tile top and now it has the books inside of it. more of Our Vintage books, but it’s also like I’ve asked myself like could I put a bookshelf on top of this Tastefully there, you know,

Maggie:
Absolutely

Rich:
And And maybe rework like the plants the plant well. I was about to say the plants could all go in the window. Except that a lot of plants don’t like to go right in the window.

Maggie:
Some of the plants could go into your hidden Library.

Rich:
That’s another thought too. It’s just in the back. So I just be sure like, they’re getting enough light or their low light plants. I I do think you’re right. I think the plans could be re worked reoriented they can maybe go on a different Shelf. We have the shelf that has. The plants that are for sale like you said. That already is topped with plants of ours and

Maggie:
Then you do you serve anyone in like ceramic coffee cups?

Rich:
At the moment. No, because

Maggie:
That’s all so A vibe.

Rich:
I know I’ve honestly I’ve been asking myself. That’s only major trade off hang. Is a major trade-off because it’s a lot of work to do those dishes. We do not have a commercial dishwasher. So all of our dishes are currently done by hand. So if you want to know why I’ll be work so much part of it is the amount of dishes.

Maggie:
We love you Daddy

Rich:
From a day and we’re sort of like, we don’t we reuse a lot of plastic containers and we have to store a lot of syrups within plastic containers. things like that, so Maybe there’s some system questions about how to do that. So there’s less dishes because I totally agree and I I’ve never thought more seriously about bringing. Like cups back ceramic cups. The other thing too is I don’t have good ceramic cups right now. Yeah,

Maggie:
I

Rich:
Know we have

Maggie:
About the ones you already have.

Rich:
I know the ones we had in the past but they’re too small.

Maggie:
Yeah, like

Rich:
Those logic apps are like 10 ounce cups and people like a 12 ounce or larger latte. so I would sort of have to invest in new stuff there as well, but it could be worth it if that Cafe Vibe was gonna move the needle

Maggie:
Like there’s always the option. Of you know how everybody at home has their like favorite mug.

Rich:
Yeah.

Maggie:
Like you could go to a couple of Goodwill stores or salvation armies and curate some mugs. just like 10 maybe because like I don’t think you’re gonna have a huge influx of people who are going to be drinking their coffee in storied. Unless they’re planning on hanging out

Rich:
Of this Vibe. Sounds like it’s gonna be awesome

Maggie:
Start with 10, you know, you don’t have to you don’t have to buy 30, you know, you can just start with 10 and they’re probably going to be like 50 cents a piece. and it can kind of go along with your like homie. Vibe it doesn’t have and they don’t have to be ceramic or they could just be like, I don’t know. I have a favorite mug that I use at home,

Rich:
Right? Yeah. I mean who doesn’t

Maggie:
Like

Rich:
Yeah,

Maggie:
You could just have

Rich:
Maybe if we could

Maggie:
Or maybe

Rich:
You’ll bring their

Maggie:
Own I would literally just gonna say that it’s just gonna say that right. You can bring you

Rich:
You. Didn’t mean to take the words on your mouth, but

Maggie:
You did but like if they were a member like maybe this could be a membership thing.

Rich:
You know

Maggie:
Like bring your own mug

Rich:
Club

Maggie:
Mug Club. And then you can like serve them up a coffee in their own mug and

Rich:
That could do their own dishes. That’s three question. You don’t that’s really lean into the homie, but Clean up after this the self cleaning kitchen. You’ve heard of bust your own people and hug. Wash and sanitizer on Dish. All right.

Maggie:
I know I just think that that’s just gonna have to be a service that you’re just gonna have to suck it up and do yeah,

Rich:
But

Maggie:
We

Rich:
Couldn’t simply add ceramic back into the equation. We’d have to say what can we change so that we can accommodation again because one there’s the environmental impacts and that’s why a lot of people look for that or ask for that but there’s just simply the like

Maggie:
I’m

Rich:
Here to stay. I’m here to hang. Give me a latte in a mug. Like that’s that’s cool. And this is I mean places that are busy and that do that. They literally employ full-time dishwashers for that kind of reason, you know restaurants like it’s because they want to give you that that At that like family at home sort of

Maggie:
I would feel like I prefer drinking a cup of coffee from a ceramic mug.

Rich:
It changes experience. Latte art too is a lot easier in a wide mouth cup.

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
You know, it’s it’s just like a feature of covid / the like convenience for coffee shops that a lot of people went back to when paper.

Maggie:
Yeah

Rich:
Plastic only. and have sort of they haven’t swung back in the other direction not because like They can’t for how the reasons anymore but more so because of like nobody wants to give up that convenience. In our case, we literally can’t add the let the labor I’m unwilling to do that at this at this time. I mean we could invest in a dishwasher. I mean maybe there’s ways to do that too, but

Maggie:
You get a portable dishwasher.

Rich:
Yeah, that’s a yeah,

Maggie:
It’s a thing

Rich:
For sure. It within Food Service. It has to have like a certain sanitizing. Ability though, or maybe I do like that’s these sanitizing actually can be the easiest step as far as yeah a sink of of sanitizer. Solution so maybe wash them and who knows? Who knows? That’s definitely something I’ve considered. Bring in the ceramic. back

Maggie:
Those are my thoughts

Rich:
Question mark what about Decor? That’s kind of like another little thing. That’s why I brought in a couple that’s why I got those vintage those chairs are her cute enough. From what I’ve heard. They’ve been the Talk of the Town actually have not been there to see any guests in them. But I’ve heard good things.

Maggie:
I saw someone sitting in them on Sunday.

Rich:
I said, they’re the favorite.

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
They’re like what people go for it.

Maggie:
Yes, so you need to get more.

Rich:
Okay

Maggie:
More cozy chairs because weren’t those other two chairs the place where people would go to oh before

Rich:
Yeah, there’s usually someone sitting in them the way they’re laid out, you know, either two people sit there or one person takes up that corner, even though there’s two chairs. There’s because like they’re like literally your knees would be touching.

Maggie:
Are you trying to be a kid friendly place? Or you like

Rich:
General?

Maggie:
Okay.

Rich:
We used to have the toys and stuff in the back pre-covid.

Maggie:
Maybe what about like a kid’s book corner? like

Rich:
Higher this woman This is why they pay his big bucks man, Nami. I’m not paying any bucks. But

Maggie:
But that would be a really cool corner. Like that would also be an attraction for people. Knowing that the their local family-friendly living room coffee shop also has a kid’s corner. for books

Rich:
Okay.

Maggie:
You can even plants you keep even put like a little. Library like give a book take a book for just the kids stuff. So kids are you’re encouraging Literacy for kids because I know that in our community that’s like a huge. Deal for not not having access to age-appropriate books for developmental stages. And so if you have a like little red library inside of story, I could really hook you up with one right now because I know rotary does that and I’m a member of rotary and a huge. A huge thing in within the rotary is literacy. And so that would be even just for kids for kids books only you could create like a leave a book take a book right and parents could

Rich:
Yeah. Nobody wants to spend four bucks on.

Maggie:
No, I don’t but also

Rich:
Orange thick

Maggie:
You you want to encourage reading in little kids. So if there if they’re enjoying a book and you’re in your coffee shop, what Joy would it bring that little child to be like go ahead you can take that book home with you it’s yours. And when you’re done, you can give it to a friend or you can bring it back. So someone else can enjoy it.

Rich:
It’s really good idea.

Maggie:
And that no other coffee shop is doing so

Rich:
True. Yeah, that would lean that’s good that would lean into like the fact that we’re doing books. But yeah, there’s something for you

Maggie:
And you’re encouraging literacy, you’re encouraging environmentally conscious, you know, not buying new books. But

Rich:
Yeah

Maggie:
Donating and you know thing the give and take just fun it also that Fosters Community because someone who’s not using books anymore. There’s probably like a half a dozen little libraries in my neighborhood, which is the neighborhood below story and You could also just make yourself a little Library location.

Rich:
It’s true. Would that be interesting outside? The library versus selling books inside.

Maggie:
Yeah don’t know kids books like you’re selling books inside. But that’s what the little libraries are for.

Rich:
And a little Library outside of a business would draw us.

Maggie:
Yeah.

Rich:
I’ve never seen that actually, I don’t know. I mean, I guess I’ve seen them outside of like like churches or like Community spaces, you know. but I don’t know I’ve ever seen one side of a business

Maggie:
That I could hook you up one tomorrow if you want to do that.

Rich:
Yeah rotary. Okay, that’s cool. I mean I’d like to like the rotary like getting more involved. Okay, okay. Well, these are good ideas dude. Thanks.

Maggie:
One other coffee, please Decor I know is. coffee table Yeah, yeah, I think that’s right. I think you need a coffee table somewhere. Yet another set of comfy chairs and you got to get a small round coffee table.

Rich:
I honestly wonder if we could. Figure out a small. I wonder if we should try to figure out a small couch.

Maggie:
Oh, yeah

Rich:
Thing with a coffee table.

Maggie:
Mm-hmm.

Rich:
For that front room oh, man, lots of things

Maggie:
Lots of things

Rich:
To rework and think through but Some solid ideas here. I I think I think we’re onto something.

Maggie:
Yeah.

Rich:
All right,

Maggie:
Definitely onto something

Rich:
Shoot. Cool. Well, we’ve been talking about this for a while. Oh, really? Appreciate your your input.

Maggie:
Yeah. I’m happy to help

Rich:
I think

Maggie:
I’ll send you my bill.

Rich:
Okay free coffee. Do you free coffee for life

Maggie:
Sweet?

Rich:
Free boba Well anything else

Maggie:
No, that was that was really insightful and I I liked. you picking my brain about this stuff because this is this is what gets me thinking and this is actually is getting my wheels turning about other things because I’ve got a few staging projects coming up and

Rich:
Yeah.

Maggie:
You know now that I’ve done my my real estate office. Like this is another commercial space.

Rich:
Yeah, and

Maggie:
So I’m kind of taking what I’ve learned from doing one commercial space and trying to apply it to Yours

Rich:
Yeah, which is cool. Well, that’s what got my wheels turning partly too like early on with with thinking about this along everything else. I said was you know, you were talking about your staging project with this real estate office, but you didn’t want it to feel like a sterile right office environment. You wanted it to have a cozy

Maggie:
Homie

Rich:
Homie Vibe. And so how to

Maggie:
Where I sell homes? Yeah.

Rich:
Right, right and we talked a little bit about that. So, you know how to balance that in a literal commercial office space

Maggie:
How

Rich:
To make it feel comfortable and disarming and like inviting and warm. Those are all the kinds of things that I think people.

Maggie:
Yeah

Rich:
Go for with a coffee shop which ultimately is a business and there’s definitely coffee shops out there that have a sterile like

Maggie:
Sure

Rich:
Even if it’s metal wood kind of vibe like it changes things. There’s like and the size of the space or the concrete flooring or whatever it is. There’s like every coffee shop is And that’s part of what’s fun about it. It’s a unique experience. Just inherently every time you go to some different place. And each one has its own like charm and features that that endure YouTube but at the end of the day it can also how do you strike that balance of this is a business? Yeah, but like we need this to be warm and inviting in a place where you want to hang so that you choose to go out of your way for it. So when you were talking about that with your with that job you had I was like That’s an intriguing concept.

Maggie:
Cool, so you heard it here first

Rich:
You sure did.

Maggie:
Well, literally I heard it here first.

Rich:
Yeah, it’s I sure did. Well people

Maggie:
Yeah

Rich:
Grateful for you. Yeah, we’ve been getting good feedback. We appreciate that. You know the channels. Yep story coffee. No House Coffee Pot. Yes. That’s gmail.com hit us up on the Instagram. Yeah on the face space. No waiters don’t have a face space.

Maggie:
No, we don’t but House Coffee podcast at Gmail’s a great place to send us feedback.

Rich:
There’s a couple voice messages. We got to check in Oh Yeah from the old you’ll speak pipes generation

Maggie:
And then next episode. Maybe we can share some more feedback.

Rich:
Oh,

Maggie:
Yes and next episode 20 and should we talk about our summer break?

Rich:
Yeah, well yeah preview

Maggie:
Yeah, I just don’t just so our listener knows that next week is episode 20 and we’re excited to bring you riches exciting news

Rich:
At the pig

Maggie:
Finally the big reveal and then we’re just gonna take it hard enough for our summer break and then we’ll be back to school in September.

Rich:
Yeah, we’re gonna take off After next week, I don’t know what the date would be. But you’re hearing this on a Thursday. The next Thursday is gonna be episode 20 and then we’re taken

Maggie:
Episode. Yeah

Rich:
The rest of August. Yeah off

Maggie:
The last episode for August will be on the 17th.

Rich:
Yeah, which is word.

Maggie:
Yeah,

Rich:
And the yeah, and we think we’re maybe gonna we’re talking about swinging over to Friday for drop days instead of Thursdays.

Maggie:
Yeah

Rich:
Starting in September

Maggie:
Starting when we’re back to school. So September. Yeah Fridays.

Rich:
Thanks for being alone on this journey with us. Yeah.

Maggie:
I love you dear audience.

Rich:
I sure do.

Maggie:
All right

Rich:
Keep the Vibes. Chill. All right,

Maggie:
The Vibes chill right later. you